So I think I will be approaching it as how would the class explain Jesus now, as Pelikan's book describes Jesus over the ages. What do you think? Am I on the right track?
i think it will make a good presentation in that your presentation will cover the readings and mine will be kinda outta the box jesus thinking. either way dont think you should stress on it too much
This question is for Khalidi The Muslim Jesus (week 7)
In the Muslim gospel, much like in the gospel of Mathew, Jesus displays an array of human emotions. He expresses fear of the Hour of his death and anger towards John (Khalidi, 54 and 74). He states “console me, for my heart is soft and I hold myself in low esteem.”(Khalidi, 77) This follows in line with the Muslim belief that Jesus was a prophet, not a God. Yet, the Muslim gospel passionately believes in Mary’s virgin birth, comparing the miracle to the creation of Adam and Eve. Saying 264 (Khalidi, 196.)
Why does the Muslim gospel continue to affirm the miraculous birth of Jesus (Son of Mary), if Islam believes Jesus was a man, not a God? Why is the virgin birth not contested like Jesus’ divinity? How might the virgin birth be culturally valuable to Islam?
Hey y’all, I thought I’d better post a question before I forgot. This is for week 9/Nov. 16th.
In “Jesus is Female,” Fogleman argues that “German Lutherans and Calvinists in the mid-Atlantic colonies were so hostile because Moravians threatened gender and sex norms and boundaries” amongst other issues (8). Which Moravian practice do you think was more offensive/threatening to other evangelistic sects: the prominent role of women in the Moravian church or the feminizing of the trinity/Christ?
As a side note, has anyone read the 1798 Charles Brockden Brown gothic novel Wieland (aka the greatest novel to ever feature both spontaneous combustion and ventriloquism)? In regards to the perception of the Moravians by German immigrants, I find it interesting that one of the signs of the Wieland children’s impending doom in the novel is their mother’s devotion to Zinzendorf. However, Brown is actually fairer to the Moravians than he is to the Quakers, which his family belonged to, in the text as a whole.
For Week 11 (Nov. 23): Question based on the Pelikan reading (Ch. 14, pp. 184-186)
While reading Chapter 14, “The Prince of Peace”, of Pelikan’s book, the doctrine of just war stood out to me. During the Reformation, Luther interpreted the Biblical Jesus in such a way that it made soldiers of the Christian faith and their actions in war compatible with each other, although there were some restrictions like no pillaging. Do you agree with Luther’s interpretation of the sayings of Jesus? Should he be condemned for undermining Jesus’ teachings on morality, thus setting back Christianity? Or should Luther be commended for using Jesus as a rallying cry in order to defend the Christian faith and ensure its survival against perceived threats? Can there be a grey area in regards to “Jesus and war”, or is this a black and white issue?
Its Sunday night so assuming this is too late for the Nov.30 class then it can apply to the Dec.7 class.
In American Jesus, Prothero discusses how Jesus was used for both the Social Gospel movements and as a justification for capitalism and the Gospel of Wealth' (also known more commonly as the Prosperity Gospel). Of these seemingly contradictory interpretations, which do you think has been more prominent and influencial in North American history and can you think of any reasons why? (while the book is about about American Jesus, I'm interpreting Canada as the 51st state for the sake of discussion)
Discussion Question: Prothero mentions the books the Unknown Life of Jesus Christ by Notovitch and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ by Dowling, based on ancient transcripts found supposedly related to the lost years of Jesus' life. The Book of Mormon found by Joseph Smith is the same principle, however he became a prophet and Mormonism developed a mass following in America. My question is how come the other two books by Notovitch and Dowling didn't catch on in such a big way? Was it because they proposed Jesus spent his lost years in India and TIbet rather than America? Other ideas?
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I was just curious. Those who are presenting next week for the seminar what are your topics, so that we don't have any overlap?
is this for medieval jesus? if so i have no idea yet.
Yea for Medieval Jesus. I have no idea what to do for this. Has anyone else started?
i've got an idea but nothing yet.
i've decided to present on the trinity
So I think I will be approaching it as how would the class explain Jesus now, as Pelikan's book describes Jesus over the ages.
What do you think? Am I on the right track?
uh... i have no clue. i'm doing something totally random regarding medieval jesus. not necessarily tied into the readings. lol.
i think it will make a good presentation in that your presentation will cover the readings and mine will be kinda outta the box jesus thinking. either way dont think you should stress on it too much
This question is for Khalidi The Muslim Jesus (week 7)
In the Muslim gospel, much like in the gospel of Mathew, Jesus displays an array of human emotions. He expresses fear of the Hour of his death and anger towards John (Khalidi, 54 and 74). He states “console me, for my heart is soft and I hold myself in low esteem.”(Khalidi, 77) This follows in line with the Muslim belief that Jesus was a prophet, not a God. Yet, the Muslim gospel passionately believes in Mary’s virgin birth, comparing the miracle to the creation of Adam and Eve. Saying 264 (Khalidi, 196.)
Why does the Muslim gospel continue to affirm the miraculous birth of Jesus (Son of Mary), if Islam believes Jesus was a man, not a God? Why is the virgin birth not contested like Jesus’ divinity? How might the virgin birth be culturally valuable to Islam?
Hey y’all, I thought I’d better post a question before I forgot. This is for week 9/Nov. 16th.
In “Jesus is Female,” Fogleman argues that “German Lutherans and Calvinists in the mid-Atlantic colonies were so hostile because Moravians threatened gender and sex norms and boundaries” amongst other issues (8). Which Moravian practice do you think was more offensive/threatening to other evangelistic sects: the prominent role of women in the Moravian church or the feminizing of the trinity/Christ?
As a side note, has anyone read the 1798 Charles Brockden Brown gothic novel Wieland (aka the greatest novel to ever feature both spontaneous combustion and ventriloquism)? In regards to the perception of the Moravians by German immigrants, I find it interesting that one of the signs of the Wieland children’s impending doom in the novel is their mother’s devotion to Zinzendorf. However, Brown is actually fairer to the Moravians than he is to the Quakers, which his family belonged to, in the text as a whole.
For Week 11 (Nov. 23): Question based on the Pelikan reading (Ch. 14, pp. 184-186)
While reading Chapter 14, “The Prince of Peace”, of Pelikan’s book, the doctrine of just war stood out to me. During the Reformation, Luther interpreted the Biblical Jesus in such a way that it made soldiers of the Christian faith and their actions in war compatible with each other, although there were some restrictions like no pillaging. Do you agree with Luther’s interpretation of the sayings of Jesus? Should he be condemned for undermining Jesus’ teachings on morality, thus setting back Christianity? Or should Luther be commended for using Jesus as a rallying cry in order to defend the Christian faith and ensure its survival against perceived threats? Can there be a grey area in regards to “Jesus and war”, or is this a black and white issue?
Its Sunday night so assuming this is too late for the Nov.30 class then it can apply to the Dec.7 class.
In American Jesus, Prothero discusses how Jesus was used for both the Social Gospel movements and as a justification for capitalism and the Gospel of Wealth' (also known more commonly as the Prosperity Gospel). Of these seemingly contradictory interpretations, which do you think has been more prominent and influencial in North American history and can you think of any reasons why? (while the book is about about American Jesus, I'm interpreting Canada as the 51st state for the sake of discussion)
Discussion Question:
Prothero mentions the books the Unknown Life of Jesus Christ by Notovitch and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ by Dowling, based on ancient transcripts found supposedly related to the lost years of Jesus' life. The Book of Mormon found by Joseph Smith is the same principle, however he became a prophet and Mormonism developed a mass following in America. My question is how come the other two books by Notovitch and Dowling didn't catch on in such a big way? Was it because they proposed Jesus spent his lost years in India and TIbet rather than America? Other ideas?
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